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[lang] Li-Ya-Hu
« on: April 02, 2011, 08:13:27 PM »

Liyahu is a constructed language created by Xay Voong during the development of a role-playing video game. The core concepts are based on the trinity entities mind, body, and soul. The philosophy is elemental, rational, metaphysical, semantical, structural, straightforward, compact, and concise.

Character Composition
Letters and numbers are made of up three symbols--called vi--positioned around the skeleton, or skel--called nga. Each skel comprise three rooms, or vc, to hold these symbols. (Note the symbols may be color coded, but not necessary.)
MindBodySoul
liviyavihuvi
bluegreenred
SkelDown skel
ngavi
also mingavi (up skel)
vangavi
lettersnumbers

Alphabet
Letters--called la--are written with mingavi (up skel) arranged either horizontally or vertically.

Vowels
Note: Some Latin consonants are used as vowels when romanizing Liyahu. These are q,j,c, and x. In other words, when you see these letters, treat them as vowels. So in addition to the original a,e,i,o, and u, there are nine vowels.
liyahuleljyqychxho
/i ɪ//ɑ//u ʊ//ɛ a//y ʉ//ɔ//œ ɜ//ə ʌ//o/
keep
it
hahfood
foot
pet
pat
über
Jyutping
(Cantonese)
lawperm
seung
(Cantonese)
bundletoe

Consonants
lurarhiyiwunyahakhighu
/l//r//ɾ//j//w// ɲ//h//ħ//ʔ/
lullroarcarros
(Spanish roll)
yaywowpiñahahlochbut
(glottal stop)
ngikagunatudimupiba
/ŋ//k//g//n//t//d//m//p//b/
longingkickgagnuntotdidmompopbob
sitsashuzadzuzhivufitha
/s//tʃ//ʃ//z//dʒ//ʒ//v//f//θ/
sischurchshushzazjudgevisionvivefifethoth

Numerals
Numbers are written with vangavi (down skel). The empty vangavi is also used to represent zero.
0123456789
hiriwakhumengqnxzhjthcsho

Punctuation
Punctuation marks are written with parts of the ngavi (called kc, sounds like "ker") in any of the eight directions that it is turned. Up is mi, down is va, left is fq, right is pa.
Full stopSpaceComma
fqngavifqkcvivafqkcvi
left-full-skelleft-part-skeldown-left-part-skel


Three-symbol characters
Three-symbol characters represent common, useful, culture-independent words.

Alternative Scripts

Proposal to Omniglot.
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Humans can be gay.
Superman is superhuman.
Q.E.D. Superman can be supergay.

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Li-Ya-Hu Examples
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 11:19:11 PM »
Examples of text and numbers written in Liyahu

Liyahu


The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. (English transliteration)



Mandarin

Cantonese


Date this topic was created: 2011/04/02

Apollo 11 Moon Landing: 1969/07/20

U.S. Debt on 2011/04/03 (approximate): 14,446,678,077,922


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Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 1)
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2011, 03:32:46 PM »
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. (English transliteration)

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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Vocabulary
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 08:30:18 PM »
li : mind
ya : body
hu : soul
nga : skeleton, frame
kc : bone, part of skeleton or frame
vi : symbol
vc: room (house)
mi : up
va : down
fq : left
pa : right
ka  : show, emote, manifest
ra : influence
kara : charisma, charm
la : letter (alphabet)
gu :  old
shx:  new
shj : event
gushj : story
nof : tell
bxn : fix
ho : yell
mao : cat
khif : water
hus : fire
wao : earth
zxb : air
lj : blue
yq : green
ho : red
ma : mother
dq : father
gi : music
kei : strange
ngc : tooth
tsong : pierce
wezh : two of, liang
gqk : wrath 怒
khesh : ruin 毀
dzey : money
sots : poison
dza : negative
fu : positive
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Structure and Syntax
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 09:51:36 PM »
Structure
How the trinity fit into and defined by categories.

Symbol
Core conceptMindBodySoul
Nameliviyavihuvi
Colorbluegreenred
TenseFuturePresentPast
PhysicalTime, SpaceMass, EnergyProperty, Phase
PerformanceThought, PlanningAction, ConsequenceSpeech, Motivation
SenseIntuition, PerceptionTouch, BalanceEmotion, Taste
GenderNeutralMasculineFeminine
EnergyElementalBiologicalSpiritual
EfficiencyAccuracyPowerSpeed
Balanced Ternary-0+

Syntax
Grammar and word constructions and regulations.

Verb-Subject-Object OR Subject-Verb-Object

Letters in a word may be split across lines if they can't all fit in the same line.
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Alternative Scripts
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2012, 04:00:25 PM »
In addition to official script, there are alternative scripts for different purposes and usage. e.g. writing by hand, digital, rope-like, flags, etc.



Variant 1
Best usage: signal flags
Key:

Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place




Variant 2
Best usage: handwriting
Key:

Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Alternative Scripts
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 03:30:21 PM »
Variant 4
Best usage: handwriting, cursive-like, shorthand
Key:

Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place




Variant 7
Best usage: handwriting, resembles Liyahu skel
Key:

Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu: Khuvi (three-symbols)
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 10:50:45 PM »
Here defines the khuvi or three-symbols.

SymbolPronunciationDefinitionSymbolPronunciationDefinitionSymbolPronunciationDefinition
rhithisbethatluall
raoryiandngiperson
tj'ssiifkhibut
theatfcplacevutime
pcfromnyathingwuhave
thoinshqtokoway
dzjnodzqwithdxother
zaImqyouhahe/she/it
zhxistsoforghuwhich
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu SMF addon test
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2012, 03:04:34 AM »
Test Liyahu SMF package.

Code: [Select]
[liyahu]words and phrases[/liyahu]
This is a test.
thalisispacelisispacehxspacetulesitufull stop

mother not'her.
muhxthaycraspacenayatu'haycrafull stop

han sjng yqn
selina ren
dze qn kei
hayanaspacesiljngispaceyiyqna
silelulinayaspaceralena
dzulespaceyqnaspacekaleli


When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there
Who put forth the proposition, that you can petition the lord with prayer
hawulenaspaceyalispacewuhxsispacebayckaspacethalehxraspacelinaspacesilemuhxnaleralispacesikahulucommathalehxraspacewuhxsispacehxspacepiycrasihxnaspacethalehxra
hahuspacepihutuspacefiyqrathaspacethahxspacepirayapihxzalishuhxnacommathayatuspaceyihuspacekaycnaspacepiletulishuhxnaspacethahxspaceluyqradispacewulithaspacepiralera
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Alternative Scripts
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 08:29:21 PM »
Variant 11
Best usage: linear direction, knots or strings on a rope
Key:

Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place




Variant 13
Best usage: Chinese or East Asian feel
Key:


Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Alternative Scripts
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2015, 09:36:06 PM »
Variant 14
Best usage: Latin-like, simple
Key:


Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place




Variant 16
Best usage: Devanagari-like
Key:

Ex.
Shenafu

Han Sjng Yqn

Selina Ren

Dze Qn Kei

All people have time and place
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2015, 10:30:15 PM »
Just realized that Liyahu looks like a field of flowers and grass. The ngavi (skel) looks like stem and leaves and the vi (symbols) like petals of various flowers.
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu Vangavi
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 11:27:47 PM »
Todo: Find uses for vangavi (down skel). such as measurements (distance, time, mass), calendar (days, months),

mind - time, space, distance, perception
body - mass, volume, substance amount, action
soul - energy, nature, electric current, temperature, speech

27 units (3 symbols vakhuvi)
second, minute, hour
day, month, year
point, per cent, degree, radian, kelvin
meter, square meter (acre), cubic meter (liter)
mole, candela, hertz, bel
gram, newton, joule, watt
ampere, volt, ohm
bit, byte


powers of 10 prefixes (2 symbols vawavi)
li 10 deca-
yc 100 hecto-
hx 1,000  kilo-
lj 1,000,000  mega-
yq 1,000,000,000  giga-
hxyq 1,000,000,000,000  tera-
ljyq 1,000,000,000,000,000  peta-
hu 0.1  deci-
le 0.01  centi-
ya 0.001  milli-
ho 0.000 001  micro-
yaho 0.000 000 001  nano-
hoho 0.000 000 000 001  pico-

18 more vawavi
plus, multiply, power
minus, divide, modulus, percent, negative
equal, point, true, false, degree, unit
currency
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2015, 02:21:15 PM »
Latin font inspired by Liyahu symbols

L2A test page

Alphabet:
Spoiler:
LetterFontBase
a
b
c
d
e
f
g
h
i
j
k
l
m
n
o
p
q
r
s
t
u
v
w
x
y
z

Examples:

Liyahu:


Conscipt:
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2015, 04:50:53 PM »
The Origins of Liyahu

Liyahu began as a gimmick for a conceptual RPG that I've had in mind for a long time. A central theme in this RPG is archaeology. To make things more interesting for the player, I wanted to create a forgotten language used by a long-gone group of people. Players would discover this exotic language as they explore the caves and ruins inhabited by the ancients.

The trinity has always fascinated me since I was a young adult. The idea came from the Dianetics book (I'm not a Scientologist) I read in 1997-98. The main idea that impressed me was the interplay between the three entities of mind, body, and soul. The number 3 is also an important, mystical, and flexible number. It's balanced (cf. rock-paper-scissors, triangle is the sturdiest shape), simple, repeatable, expandable, etc. More recently, I learned about ternary logic and how much better it is than binary (true/false) logic. (Aside, I'm designing a programming language with ternary logic as one of its core.) Also base-3 numbers are actually more efficient than base-2.

Back to Liyahu. The first roadblock is how would my letters in this alphabet look like. I saw other constructed languages based on concepts of 2 and 4. They usually put symbols side by side or in a square. Similarly for my base-3 writing, I decided to divide my letters into three parts. Hence, the skel (short for skeleton) that is shaped like a Y. The letters would be combinations and permutations of smaller symbols arranged around this skel.

The symbols for mind, body, soul came about quite simply. Mind is a vague outline of a (human) brain, separated by left and right halves. Body is an upright (human) body. Soul shows the four chambers of the (human) heart (as well as a cross pertaining to many spiritual philosophies, including ancient Babylon and Egyptian, Christianity, and Hinduism.)

With the symbols set, the next major hurdle is connecting them to the sounds used in speech (in particular, what our human voices can make.) Many alphabets in real-world languages comprise about 20 to 30 letters. Coincidentally, I can fit around that much using single and double symbols: 9 singles and 27 doubles = 36 letters. Thus I reserved 9 single letters for vowels and 27 doubles for consonants.

I sought the 3 most common, yet distinct vowel sounds found in languages around the world, and concluded these were A, I, and U. Then connected them to the trinity: A is the sound of physical release (e.g. when a fighter is about to punch), U is the sound of breathing central to many spiritual activities (e.g. yoga, meditation, hu is also the Mandarin word for exhale), which leaves I for mental activities. Another reason for choosing these 3 vowels, is that according to the IPA vowel chart, these 3 vowels occupy the corners of the chart. So, there is plenty of room between them to locate other lesser vowels and group them closest to the major vowels.

Consonants will contain two symbols in specific permutations. However, repeated symbols are rarer than combined symbols. That is, there are fewer mind-mind permutations than mind-soul. Hence, repeated symbols shall form the basis of consonants. For these, I sought out the glides, semi-glides, and pharyngeal sounds. First, there are fewer of these sounds than 'harder' consonants. Second, it distinguishes this language from real-world languages, which usually form around 'harder' consonants. Third, they sound smoother and less effort to pronounce. Liyahu comes out smoother than say, Bikatu. Also important is how close these sound to the essence of mind, body, soul. YA is the sound of physical release. HU is the sound of breathing. LI is the root of words like 'literature', 'letter', 'library', etc. (Thus I also defined 'li' in this language to mean 'letter'.)

The rest of the consonants are organized by family of sounds according to linguistic theories. Where the sound comes from (throat, nasal, mouth), position of tongue and teeth, voiced, aspiration, etc. Then fit these groups as best with the concepts mind, body, soul, along with the sounds of A, I, U.

The choices of vowels and consonants are highly influenced by English, Cantonese, and Mandarin.

The names of the vowels is simply the base consonant sound--L, Y, or H--plus the vowel sound. For example, E belongs to I group, which is related to L. So L + E = le.

The names of the consonants is simply the consonant sound plus the vowel in the empty position of the symbol. For instance, L is missing the right symbol, which is the default position of the soul symbol, or U. Hence L + U = lu.

The default positions of the symbols situated around the skel is thus: mind at top, body left, and soul right. This has other ramifications for other matters, including 3-symbol letters, word composition, alternative writing systems, structural concepts (such as past, present, future), etc.

Words are created where each letter represents a process and property of that word. For example, the word for fire is 'hus'. H (soul-soul) means it has no physical state. You can't hit it or hold it. U (soul) means it moves around like a breath of air. S (soul-body) means it can warm the body and the heart. Fire also makes a sizzling sound. Thus, individually each letter for the word fire 'hus' and together embodies the essence of fire. (It also sounds very close to the Mandarin word for fire 'huo'.)

The variant writing systems began as a way to facilitate writing Liyahu with pen and paper. Variants 7 and 2 came first. However, the forums posts goes by the order I have in my notebook, where I experiment and practice the different writing systems. I must say, variant 2 is actually quite fun to write with pen and paper (and looks cute to boot). As you said, simple symbols, trimmed to the essential, make things efficient and practical. Then I expanded to wildly other forms of 'writing', although some of these seem more fanciful than practical. Variant 11 is inspired by Phyrexian writing (from Magic: the Gathering card game), through which I learned about ancient Incan communication methods that tied ropes and knots called 'quipu'.

One of my most ambitious, fanciful idea for the RPG is to have different writing systems appear on different parts of the game (i.e. on different worlds and levels).

(Note: This post is a response to Napishtim's questions via PM.)
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Re: [lang] Li-Ya-Hu
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2015, 02:20:59 AM »
MBS 27 Domains Chart
http://www.shenafu.com/wp/mbs-27-domains-chart/

Each Liyahu letter can be divided into three parts, or houses. Each house is dominated by either mind, body, or soul. Which symbol you put in each house will modify or define that house.

The simplest to explain is the left house, dominated by body. For the elements, this house defines what the element looks like or how it is manifested. A mind symbol in the body house means it is imaginary or abstract, only an idea. A body symbol means it has matter and can be felt and seen. A soul symbol means it invisible but has energy or force, or gaseous, or related to emotional or spiritual expression.

This method inducted to all elements, by filling every house with different symbols. Each permutation of houses and symbols forms a unique element.

The most iconic element is that of Man.

The man has a physical body (body symbol in body house), a heart that can feel various emotions (soul symbol in soul house), and has the capacity for thought and advanced mental faculties (mind symbol in mind house). This element's graphic is also the icon for the Liyahu language and philosophy.
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